God in Christianity and Islam (part 1)
Both Christians and Muslims agree that God is All Powerful, All Knowing, Eternal, Loving, Merciful and Gracious but on what points what do we disagree? The Islamic belief that God (in His Essence) is not within His creation protects Muslims from falling into idolatry (the worship of creation). Unfortunately other religions have fallen into this trap. The Islamic concept of God is based on what God Himself revealed in the Qur’an. Christianity’s concept of God was decided upon in a board meeting known as the “council of Nicea”. Watch this video and decide for yourself which concept of God is the purest, Christianity’s or Islam’s? The book that I’m reading from at the end of this video can be downloaded for free at this link: www.kalamullah.com
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man was made in God’s image,God didn’t become a man. You say it as though He could only be in one place at any one time (now He is God, now a man) Rather, His law which He gave to Moses was made perfect IN Jesus:God is manifest in Jesus, in the sense that Jesus perfected the loose ends of the law subject to man’s sin. Following Christ one SHOULD honor the law of Moses.some lie.
the Trinity is a topic of delicate debate between brothers of differing viewpoints but I appreciate your grace Shalom
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Regarding to your mention of the nation of Islam…u see for years u slaved our black brothers in the name of religion..u twisted Christianity for your interest..which give u the superiority over them..it was normal for them to look to anything giving them superiority over you..this is political issue rather than religious issue..u pay for your mistakes..this is your problems
The word Allah means God….as simple as That..it is just a language..it is normal that u get confused..cause u don’t know the language i supposed..and u don’t know the culture i supposed ..maybe i am right maybe i am wrong..the same thing with Christianity..u looked to Jewish book sent to the Jewish..with a Greek glasses (who have many Human God and son of Gods) in which u lack the knowledge of the language and culture
but the holly ghost u claim as the comforter ..was their before Jesus who say that??..the bible says that..the holly spirit was with john and with others in the bible before Jesus..also christian tells u the holly spirit filled Jesus..so the holly spirit was before, with and after Jesus..so by all means this can’t be the holly spirit ..who says that..the bible..the christian..answer to that..elaborate..instead of speaking about ..what the word Allah means
This lead us to the question i posted more than 4 times with no answer.. Jesus says..(Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. John 16:7)..he made it a condition…i hope u following me
So why Jesus didn’t do the same thing Muhammad did…why God didn’t reserve his message like what we claim he did to quran…lets hear what Jesus said…Matthew 15:24(He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”)..do u know what does ONLY mean…are u the lost sheep of Israel..he also says in John 16:12 (I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now)..that is the reason.. u just wasn’t ready..when u are ready some one else will come..the comforter..
then InfidelForce2009 speaks about the source of quran and bible..the whole points of prophets is to reveal the message..the quran didn’t drop from heaven in a box but revealed by god in the tongue of Muhammad..the bible is anonymous book u don’t even know all the sources..look to the picture of Jesus in any church..whit man with blue eyes..is this man who born in palastain from Jewish mother..look to the names ..Paul..peter..u changed them to westerner names….why..what is left..
Then look to the modern history.don’t go too far..who went to Africa and slaved million and million of our black brother in the name of Christianity..who do u think build this great civilized countries..who slaughtered 6 million Jewish as long teaching that they killed Jesus while they innocent from that..who terminate the natives because they wasn’t christian..have u ever read the history of natives not from the native prospective..who is trying over and over to colonize the whole world
As a result slavery ended as a concept .although sick people will always find away..then i don’t know how u read the bible didn’t u read this verse..(ye, shall take them (the slaves) as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them (the slaves) for a possession, they shall be, your BONDMEN (slaves) for ever) .LEVITICUS 25:46..
5.Qur’an unambiguously states that no human being has the right to enslave any other human or group of humans even prophets, the Quran says:
“It is not meet for a mortal that Allah should give him the Book and the wisdom and ‘Nabuwah’ (prophethood), then he should say to men: Be my slaves rather than Allah’s; but rather (he would say): Be sustenance providers (Rabaniyoon) because of your teaching the Book and your studying (it yourselves).”[3:79]
4.The main source of slaves, were prisoners of war. The Quran laid down that they should be set free either for a favor or as ransom for your own prisoners of war:
“So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates”[47:4]
3.if a slave asks for his freedom ,the believer is left for no other choice but to accede to his request and is also required to help him with funds in order to rehabilitate him as a free man:
“And if any of your slaves ask you for a deed in writing (for emancipation) give them such a deed; If ye knew any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you”[24:33]
2.Islam made a lot of roots to free slaves..if u want to be righteousness and if did any sin the solution is to free slaves
“But it is righteousnessto spend of your substance out of love for Himfor the ransom of slaves..”[2:177]
“And whoever kills a believer by mistake, it is ordained that he should free a believing slave..”[4:92]
“He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiationgive a slave his freedom..”[5:89]
1.Islam made rights to slave as a first steep..(Ihsan (goodness) to parents and (to) what your right hands posses.”[4:36)..if you want to have slave treat them like your treat your parents..which defeat the whole purpose…
Slavery..the brother also spoke about slavery in Islam.. ignoring the modern history of slavery done by Christianity… but u see slavery was existing and deep rooted before Islam, Islam build a system to eliminate this disgusting habit. Islam is not fantasy but practical.. so gradually Islam got ride of this habit..lets see how
Crucifiction..An evil and unfaithful generation seeks a sign, but no sign will be given it except the Sign of Jonah the prophet. Just as Jonah was in the belly of the whale three days and three nights, so will the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.” (Matthew 12: 38-40)..like Joanna was alive in the belly of the whale..so Jesus will be alive in the earth..this is the miracle when someone suppose to die..he didn’t..this is the miracle..like Joanna.Jesus said that
see as Muslim my salvation depend on me.. i have to work for it..it is a fair system..u get what u worked for..that is what i will teach my children..the whole concept of someone died for you..is totally not just..and u can’t even teach it to your children..u know today, people are more just than God..if u did something wrong..u will be punished not Jesus..try and u will see….it doesn’t make sense..lets see what Jesus say about that…
The brother say Jesus in Islam is not the same person in Christianity..i am telling u the man who came more than 2000 year in Palestinian from Jewish mother.. in a miraculous birth..the man who cured the blind and make the death alive with God permission is Jesus Muslim believes in….do I believe he is GodNO I dont ..why?? because he never said in a direct way that I am God worship meif he comes to today and said I am God worship me I will believe him…but he will never say what he is not
See we consist of 2 parts soul and human body.. so if u have a human soul in a human body that make u human..the brother
InfidelForce2009 tells u Jesus body was 100% human..but he believes Jesus is a God..so I suppose what make him God is his soul..it must be 100 percent God soul..but Jesus says( Now my soul is troubled.” (John 12:27)..does that sound to u as a God soul
God in Islam is one with all what the word means..it reads (Say: He is Allah, the One! (1) Allah, the eternally Besought of all! (2) He begetteth not nor was begotten)….so we don’t worship Muhammad.or his mother or his sister or any human.. also in Islam God doesn;t have wife, girlfriend, sons, grandchildren..and just to close the door cause as human we tend to glorify and worship our prophets and scholars the quran says in el umar veruse 144 (Muhammad is but a messenger,..not less not more
Brother InfidelForce2009… made a lot of comments..He also sent me a private message.. To me I dont prefer those private messages as the whole point of this is for all of us to learn rather than a personal battle..some of this points really not worth to response to like and I am quoting( MUSLIMS WORSHIP A UNITARIAN DEITY (Allah, his wife, 3 daughters and 359 other smaller gods)..so I found my self obligated to clear some concept
@InfidelForce2009. Look, nothing you planto say to this satanic worshipper that will enter their ears. satan sleeps in their nose at night, so, it will take the grace of God for them to see the truth
@InfidelForce2009 I 100% agree with you. Nowhere did God establish religion. Religion is satan’s way of deceiving mankind to hell fire. Christianity itself is not a religion but a way of life to be holy in the sight of God almighty.
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God never instituted Judaism as a religion. God made COVENANTS. Judaism was invented by Jewish rabbis, NOT GOD! As such, God’s Mosaic Covenant could be considered HEBREWISM, not Judaism.
When you learn what HISTORICAL PRECEDENT MEANS AND SIGNIFIES, then come back to me with a proper answer to my comment that makes sense.